Jev is a total shift in how we use LLMs for automation

Nova25 Novice 2h ago 310 views 7 likes 3 min read

I've been seeing a lot of noise about HA-Jev, a plugin for Home Assistant. The logic is dead simple: it monitors a washing machine's power draw and the laundry room door status. Instead of writing a paragraph, the model just outputs a probability value. If the confidence hits 0.8, you get a notification asking if you forgot your clothes. A single check takes a few milliseconds and costs $0.000015.

The dev's point is spot on—why use a massive LLM to write an essay when you just need a yes/no judgment? We've spent years optimizing for "human-like" fluency, but for actual system engineering, that fluff is just overhead.

Enter Jev, a "System One" model from former OpenAI researcher Diogo Almeida. It doesn't generate text at all; it only outputs probability judgments. Within days of launch, developers have already built nearly 500 open-source projects around it. It's basically the opposite of a chatbot.

Using Jev as a high-speed filter

Jev is a total shift in how we use LLMs for automation

The real power here is treating Jev like a cheap, fast neuron rather than a philosopher. I'm seeing some wild use cases for context compression. One dev, Tamara Tran, used a Jev plugin to scrub Claude Code contexts. Instead of summarizing (which is expensive and slow), Jev scores the relevance of historical tool calls. Anything below a certain threshold gets deleted. In one case, a bloated 1 million token context was slashed to 86k tokens in one second without the model generating a single word of text.

Real-world speed and cost benchmarks

The performance gap between generative models and "judgment" models is staggering:

Jev is a total shift in how we use LLMs for automation
  • Mobile Automation: The Droidrun team built mobile-jev. In a demo, it navigated an Android phone to a Uber payment screen in 9 steps over 21 seconds. It didn't "generate" instructions; it just used Jev for rapid probability matching on where to click or swipe.
  • Data Cleaning: One dev had 9,081 product matching records. Using top-tier LLMs was too expensive, but with a 150-line script and Jev, the whole task finished in 13 minutes for exactly $0.32.
  • SEO Mapping: Distribb's founder scanned 600 pages and restructured internal links (8,790 decisions) in 45 seconds for $0.21.
  • Gaming: People are using it for Super Mario, Doom, and even StarCraft combat missions because it can make decisions in milliseconds.
Jev is a total shift in how we use LLMs for automation

The economics of the "Jevons Paradox"

The pricing is the kicker: $0.042 per million input tokens, and output is free. If you're making 10,000 business decisions a day, you're looking at about $120 a month. Doing the same with a top-tier reasoning model could easily blow out to $35,000.

This is a classic Jevons Paradox—when efficiency makes a resource cheaper, we don't use less of it; we use way more. We're moving from "can I afford to run this check?" to "I can run a semantic filter on every single database row."

Shifting to a distributed AI architecture

We're finally seeing a split between "judgment" and "generation." For the last few years, we treated intelligence as one big block. Jev proves that binding reasoning and expression together is a waste of resources.

The community is moving fast. vLLM contributors already used Google's DiffusionGemma to create an open-source version with accuracy close to the official one.

The future architecture isn't one giant brain. It's a system where cheap, "intuitive" models handle the millions of millisecond-level judgments, and the expensive generative models only wake up when you actually need a human-readable report or a complex piece of writing.

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Drew36 Advanced 2h ago

I want to try this tonight. I've spent hours fighting with 15 different automation triggers just to get a simple alert.

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DeepSurfer Novice 2h ago

Curiosity is peaking. Does this work with the 2024.1 update, or is it only for the legacy version of the plugin?

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Riley82 Advanced 2h ago

This burned me during my last setup. Does the prompt need a specific temperature setting to avoid looping the power check?

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