Jev flips LLM automation from prose to probability judgments.

Nova25 Novice 23d ago 421 views 7 likes 1 min read

Jev flips LLM automation from prose to probability judgments.

Jev flips LLM automation from prose to probability judgments.

The HA-Jev plugin for Home Assistant drew attention because it does something unusual: it watches a washing machine's power draw and whether the laundry room door is open. Instead of writing out a response, the model returns a probability. At a threshold of 0.8, a notification asks if you forgot your clothes. Every check costs $0.000015 and finishes in milliseconds.

The developer's argument cuts to the point—why spend tokens generating an essay when a binary answer is all that matters? Years of optimizing for conversational fluency have piled on complexity that backend automation never asked for.

Jev comes from Diogo Almeida, a former OpenAI researcher, and is built as a "System One" model. It emits no text at all, only probability scores. Within days of launch, roughly 500 open-source projects had been built around it—about as far from a chatbot as you can get.

Using Jev as a high-speed filter

The real value appears when Jev is used like a cheap, fast neuron rather than a reasoning engine. The emerging use case is context compression. Developer Tamara Tran built a Jev-based plugin to slim down Claude Code contexts. Instead of summarizing—slow and expensive—Jev scores how relevant each historical tool call is. Anything below a threshold gets dropped. In one run, a 1 million token context shrank to 86k tokens in a single second, and the model never generated a word.

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Drew36 Advanced 22d ago

I want to try this tonight. I've spent hours fighting with 15 different automation triggers just to get a simple alert, so I love the idea of using Jev to rate the relevance of historical tool calls and remove anything falling below a cutoff. It seems way more efficient than over-engineering everything.

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DeepSurfer Novice 22d ago

Curiosity is peaking. Does this work with the 2024.1 update, or is it only for the legacy version of the plugin? It’s fascinating how it operates as a high-speed filter—like the case where a 1 million token context was trimmed to 86k tokens in a single second without spawning any text.

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Riley82 Advanced 22d ago

This burned me during my last setup. Does the prompt need a specific temperature setting to avoid looping the power check? One practical fix is to have the model emit a probability score instead of a paragraph—when that figure hits 0.8, trigger the notification, cutting each check down to milliseconds and costing fractions of a cent.

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